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Five Favourite/UnfavouriteThings About Who

  • Apr. 12th, 2007 at 9:28 PM
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Half-inched from [ profile] vandonovan, and [ profile] maccine, who started this madness.


1. Time-Flight. Because much as the sight of Nyssa being assaulted by a bubble-bath monster is amusing, the whole thing is just hopeless nonsense.
2. Love and Monsters. Paving Slab. That is all.
3. Four to Doomsday. Unspeakably boring. Tegan's Aborigine dialect skillz. And that beardy Greek bloke is memorably shite, in an era when the guest cast were fairly universally so. Even Davison's rubbish in it.
4. Dragonfire. A slightly random choice as I'll admit the ending is quite sweet, but for the love of Pete, Glitz makes me want to curl up and die. A crap monster at a time when they had ceased to be legitimised by a budget of ninepence. The cast are uniformly awful and they go to a space bar which would have looked a bit shoddy and hackneyed if Buck Rogers' sweaty nylon torso was in there getting down to some 'futuristic' music. Argh.
5. Father's Day. I know, I know, I have no soul. But it doesn't work! The very idea he'd take her there in the first place is absurd: then they flip back through time to the same moment but aren't still there: then there's that nonsense with the empty TARDIS (a lovely image, that goes nowhere and makes no sense at all), and the glowy magic deus ex machina key, and the Reapers who make all other episodes ever cease to work, and OH GOD IT PISSES ME OFF. There is some lovely stuff in there, and some of the dialogue is divine. But that only makes me more annoyed since it should've been brilliant - and thus it nudges fear Her and New Earth out, even though technically they're probably crapper.

(Please note I haven't seen any of Season 23 since it aired. :P)


1. Enlightenment. :D Oh, what's not to love, seriously? I still love the 'space race' premise, and then there's Nurse Gladys Emmanuel as a deranged pirate wench, Leeeeeeeeeee John being hilariously terrible, magic celery #2, 'Vacuum Shield Off', Tegan's unnoticed (but lovely) frock, the immensely creepy Marriner, Turlough wriggling about in chains, Turlough being adopted by sailors as some kind of porn mascot, Turlough flailing about on the floor shouting 'DOOOCTOOOOOOOOOOOOR!'... Genius.
2. Caves of Androzani. Because it's properly good, above and beyond the usual rubbish that I like in Who, and it still leaves me feeling shattered and bereft no matter how many times I watch it.
3. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. 'Are you my Mummy?' = terrifying. The conclusion is so beautifully structured, so perfectly done, and it's funny and heartwarming and 'everyone lives' and hurrah. 'Well, I've got a banana, and in a pinch you could put up some shelves.' Oh, Jack, you were so great when you were a cocky manslut on the make. We miss you.
4. Terror of the Zygons. Action!Harry, Evil!Harry, Nessie, the Brig in a kilt, hilarious rubber aliens and their fondleable console of porn, Sarah poking out her tongue, Four being attacked off-screen and squeaking: oh, so much love. Genesis of the Daleks is probably better, and has a giant clam, but for some reason I adore this one.
5. City of Death The Girl in the Fireplace Mawdryn Undead The Mind Robber Planet of Fire The Web of Fear (if there was more than one bloody episode of it) Black OrchidThe Tomb of the Cybermen Dalek City of Death. For shoes and Paris and hats and skipping, and John Cleese and Eleanor Bron, and This Is A Fake, and Duggan, and green squiggly spaghetti-headed aliens, and Time Ladies with clock faces, and oh bugger, it is a bit too good to be ignored, really.

Blimey: two Fives, two Toms and a Nine. How odd.


1. Mel. I'm sure Bonnie is a lovely lady, but Mel grates on me like I am cheese.
2. Katarina. Cheating, probably, and I've only seen the one episode, but by god she was annoying.
3. Peri. Sorry, Peri.
4. Liz Shaw. Her mascara annoys me to the point of discomfort, and while I have in no way seen enough of her to pass judgement really, she, um, lacks warmth. I'm sure I'll see the light eventually.
5. Purple Tegan. She's a useful device for puncturing Fluffy Beigey and his happy TARDIS family, and when she comes back and actually wants to be there she has moments of snarky brilliance - but I mostly want to smack her in S18.

(Phew. That saves me from having to be rude about Leela.)


1. Barbara. Just the hair alone would do it, really. But she's that weird sexy/maternal mix, and is so completely brilliant in The Aztecs, and I covet her bra.
2. Sarah Jane. She cheats because we know the fabulous crazy lady she turns out to be, and I have so much love for older Sarah with her attic full of photos and space junk and Mr Smith. But I do love her 'plucky gal' stuff, and she somehow manages to make being the girl-needing-rescue not irritating.
3. Romana. If pressed, II, purely from what I've seen. Anyone who can make their own sonic screwdriver, which the Doctor surreptitiously tries to nick, must be slightly fabulous. Plus, you know, clothes. I am easily swayed by clothes.
4. Jo. I am fickle, because she did used to annoy me rather a lot. This really is mostly about clothes again.
5. S1 Rose. Which is mostly down to Billie, because on paper Rose is a fairly unappealing figure to me, but she is honestly delightful in that role - until they ballsed it all up and made her crap. But before the incomprehensible character destruction, she was glorious.


1. K9. Who might be male. Possibly. He's a pain in the arse, anyway.
2. Adam. Not because he is himself especially awful, but because I despised what they used him for: resigning him to a lifetime of terror and probable persecution or loneliness, for a giggle, for revenge, because he was greedy and a bit stupid. Er, what show is this again? Are we meant to like these people? An early glimpse of that nasty New Earth/Rise of the Cybermen cliquery, and a deeply depressing ending to a shite episode.
3. Adric. Sorry. I liked him when I was small! But not so much now I am less sympathetic towards nervous pocket-acting and poor falling-over-invisible-tree-root skills.
4. Yates? He's a bit rubbish. Though semi-canonically gay, which almost makes me want to give him a pass. But not quite.
5. Kamelion. Yes, I'm cheating again. Shh.


1. Turlough. Surprise! I think I have waffled about his loveliness before now, perhaps once or twice. But I still love him. He's so useless at being evil, but also quite useless at being good. And there is the sluttiness. And the uniform. And the angst. He is ginger perfection, and the most interesting companion ever. So there.
2. Harry. I bet he'd make you a lovely cup of tea in the morning, eh? Nudge, nudge, say no more, squire! He's got a cravat and says 'old girl' and is bumbly and solicitous and adorable. Yes please.
3. Ian. Half Kenneth More, half Richard Briers, all cardigan. *smushes*
4. The Brig. I don't care if he technically counts or not, he's a bloody marvel. I love him even more now I realise he was in the Two era. FFS, someone please write him into the new series before we lose the opportunity?
5. Steven. He is a SPACE PILOT FROM THE FUTURE. That's more than enough for me. Plus he's all action-heroic, and even though I've hardly seen him at all, I absolutely would. :) I forgot Jamie! Oh dear. *hangs head* See, so few boy companions, and still 5 is not enough.


1. Sharaz Jek. He's such a terrifying pervert. It's borderline parody, because he's practically rubbing his thighs in a Vic Reeves fashion, but the gimp mask and fake eyelashes somehow make it all the more creepy without losing any of the camp. I suspect the 'prattling jackanapes' scene may be my very favourite Who moment ever: such a grand pissing contest.
2. Cybermen, 1960s style. The ones with the hollow cut-out eyes. Brr.
3. Sea Devils. I may have only encountered them in their rubbish 1980s wonky-headed T-shirt-wearing incarnation thus far, but the voices? Pant-wettlingly scary.
4. Clockwork Androids. Such a beautiful design.
5. The Master. For the subtext alone.


1. Five. My Doctor.
2. Four. He's so completely barmy. Lots of very very good stories, and he's probably the only one of them I still enjoy even if I don't like the companion.
3. Two. Oh, dear old Two, how I wish I could unburninate you, for every moment you are on screen makes me happy, and you would be everyone's beloved if we could only see more of you.
4. Eight. Because there are (at least) three of you, and I like all of them. Plus you are pretty and if only you had a nicer wig and less Eric Roberts, things might have been so different.
5. Nine. Just. Because there are moments in Dalek and The Doctor Dances and The Parting of the Ways that will always be beloved, and because he revived my old fondness for a silly old bit of telly I'd half-forgotten, and made it all sprightly and internet-fandomish for me.


[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2007 11:22 pm (UTC)
Poor Jamielessness. And I fear your hate for Leela! What's to not like!? okayokay, I know people don't like her, but I so don't understand it, hahahaha.

You like Turlough? I would have never guessed!
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 12th, 2007 11:32 pm (UTC)
Hee, I knew I'd do something daft like that and forget to put someone in I meant to. He clearly replaces Steven on the scale of win, really. It's just that Steven gets no love and I feel the urge to hug him. But yes, Jamie > Steven. Oops.

Leela...hmm. I think it's the same as with Liz: she's just not very warm. I think I have a problem with the actress, though, because she's been in lots of things where I know I'm meant to like her but don't. Plus the whole 'I shall indicate my alienness by not eliding any of my words' is so very annoying. It's a bit like Katarina with the in-your-face oddness: all that 'I must kill it' business gets a bit old, and makes her look a bit dim. Probably it is just that I haven't seen her in enough stuff, really.

I do like Turlough, yes. Just a little bit. Once a week or so.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 12:16 am (UTC)
Yay Jamie love! *pets him* I think I can handle people disliking Adric, but not Jamie, hahaha.

As for Leela, I guess I understand that. I know that some pepole are offended that in order for her to be a tough fighter type, she has to be uneducated, but eh. I just don't care. I'd rather a million Leela's than Sarah Janes and Tegans. She's so useful and she teaches the Doctor stuff and he teaches her stuff and over all it's so glorious. and I think she's hot and the lack of contractions, etc., just doesn't bother me. It even makes sense to me, in a "The TARDIS is translating her" sort of way.

Mmm, Turlough. You don't see like the Turlough-type, really. Haha.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:48 am (UTC)
Oh, sod it, you know I wind up loving everyone in the end. Just mentally scroll ahead a few weeks, and I'll be posting about how actually Leela is the best companion EVAR and anyone who thinks otherwise is drunk. I'm such a rubbish fangirl.

No one really likes Turlough. We're all just pretending.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
Yeah, I have that problem too. I'm like, "AUGH! I HATE TEGAN! HERE IS MY 50,000 WORD TEGAN/TURLOUGH FIC. STFU."

And yes, of course we all hate Turlough. It's because he's a coward with a yellow tail.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:58 am (UTC)

Yep. We're both hopeless at proper h8. I don't even hate on Rose properly. And I used to be pleasantly filled with loathing for Six and Seven, and now that's shafted by me quite liking them. Grr. I don't even hate the Kandyman, ffs.

Oh god, I love the 'Turlough has a tail' fic SO MUCH. It's possibly my favurite fic of all time, purely for how unselfconsciously revealing it is. Work of genius, that one.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 02:03 am (UTC)
Awww, yay for love for Six and Seven. We do fail at hating. Which is probably good, really. I like Tegan when I write her, or when people who don't like her but aren't asses about it, write her. (Like you.) Because then she is useful and fun. But in the show she's like nails on a chalkboard, sigh.

Turlough has a tail should be nominated for a fic award. In fact, we should create a fic award thingie, just to nominate it for it.
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[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 12:42 am (UTC)
No Hex for favorite male Companion? Woe.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
Oh dear god, that's two now I've entirely forgotten to include. Um. I was intentionally excluding non-telly people?

This is revealing, though: I need (at least) 7 favourite boy companions, but when it comes to the girls, I could've had fewer than 5 and that would've been ok. How depressing. :(
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[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:07 am (UTC)
This is difficult. I wish to FLAMEZUDED for Liz, and yet, Babs is at number one on the other list thingie, also Romana is there. OH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

you would be everyone's beloved if we could only see more of you.

Ooh, true! :D

*turns off teh flaminatorz*
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:52 am (UTC)
My love for Barbara's bra is surely enough to redeem me? And yes, Two love. For he is too good for words, and would probably be my favourite if it were not for time and burnination.

Dotidoitdoit, btw. Tis fun and makes one's head hurt in the good nerdy kind of way.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
Even Davison's rubbish in it.

But he does a great passing out scene!

I could never really see the sea devils or the silurians as villains, because the first thing I saw/read them them in was their original 3rd doc serials.

Imagine going to sleep and finding out a metric fuckload of shaven apes have taken over the place. I'd be cranky too.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 01:54 am (UTC)
Davison doesn't need to try to do a great passing out scene, though.

And yeah, I know my Silurian-fu is all over the shop there, but I like the Sea Devil hissing. And I'm bored of Daleks and wished to make my boredom apparent.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
*clears throat*

Dear RTD.
We are tired of the giant mechanical phallic-shaped seagulls. Please find another bad vllain to exploit - there were quite a few during the shows initial 26 year run..

We know you have a hardon for the Daleks, and while there is quite a fascinating discussion to be held about your sexuality and and obsession with an oddly-familiar shaped monster, quite frankly the way you keep stroking yourself through your pants is putting us off and we do not wish to hold said discussion.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 02:44 am (UTC)

I think I actually ruptured something inside I was laughing so hard at Tegan's Aboriginal skillz. OMG. Especially given that they were all, We are Central Deserty and she's from Brisvegas. Lordy.

I have to agree fully with your 5 favourite female companions. Fully. And the male ones actually (though obviously, Harry would be first... and Jamie'd be higher on the list...)... but no Leela love? I take it you haven't seen The Talons of Weng-Chiang, in which they go all Sherlocky and it's the BEST WHO STORY EVER. And she's marvelous in it, really. Though her leaving was completely rubbish and out of character and ... weird. But anyway.

Heh. I am not yet bored with Daleks so they'd probably make the list. Rewatch Genesis and tell me you don't still find them terrifying. :D The entire Genesis of the Daleks --> Terror of the Zygons season is probably my favourite. ... hm. Now I'm thinking about this! Argh! Fandom = time-wastage, yes!

[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
I agree about Leela in Weng Chiang - she's awesome in it. And in the one with the lighthouse and the green slime and the fog.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 01:08 am (UTC)

Horror at Fang Rock? With the lighthouse... *G* I always got it confused with the Goodies episode that had a lighthouse in it. Ah, my brain. :D

[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 10:11 am (UTC)
Yes, that's the one. With the rough but honest peasant sailor types in their jumpers, and the posh snobby ones in their fancy suits, and the lovely green slime.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
Oh, have indeed seen Talons of Weng-Chiang, and I do like - and she is rather fabulous in it with the dressing-up and all. (Although I fear its status as Best Story Ever with lots of people was a bit off-putting, as inevitably I had absurdly high expectations and I thought it was only Quite Good, sigh.) I think I just haven't seen enough of her to really 'get' her - as was the case with Jo.

Daleks are scary in person: I have met several (as in at exhibitions etc - I have not gone entirely loopy), and they do make you shiver a bit, just from the lurking fear that they might suddenly spring to life and make with the extermination. But I find them mostly unscary onscreen: Genesis is wonderful for other reasons, really. (Giant Clams! Harry in a clingy black ninjawear! Huge thrilling moral debate!)

Mmm, time-wastage. I love it so.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
YAY for EeeYan!

I want to do this. What's a story arc? Yer wot?
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 04:38 pm (UTC)
Beloved Ian. I want to snuggle in his cardigan.

'Story Arc' would be, er, just a story really. I didn't come up with the phrasing. :P So any old-school sequence of episodes that made a story (like 'Talons of Weng-Chiang') or any new school single episode (or double ep, I seem to have decided). Do it, tis fun!
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
Ah, right, yes. Story. Gotcha.

But it's TOO HARD to decide! My lovely Who Fan Colleague asked me yesterday what my favourite ever episode/story is, and I had to pick about ten. And I still wasn't happy.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 04:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, absolutely! It's awful. I spent about twenty minutes trying to decide and it's hardly the first time I've been asked the question. Not to mention the fact that I clean forgot about 2 of my very favourite companions. Duh.

I think just working on the basis that you are allowed to change your mind later and it actually doesn't matter at all makes it possible. But it is a jolly exercise in fannish navel-gazing and a good way of being poked by other people to watch things I haven't, I thought: definitely feel compelled to watch more Leela now :)
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 05:32 pm (UTC)
Ok, I've done mine. I surprised myself with some of my answers. Hm.

I like Leela. Haven't you seen Talons of Weng Chiang? It's SO BLOODY AWESOME.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC)
Thank you, I was rolling over and laughing and nearly falling off my bunk laughing at Sharaz Jek rubbing his thighs and I HURT MYSELF. Aaahhaha!

Babs's bra=cruise missiles. Win.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 13th, 2007 06:45 pm (UTC)
Bab is like a one-woman tour de force made entirely of hairspray and tits. And yet she is also hardcore brainy and self-assured and wondrous. Ian is lucky to have her.

Sharaz Jek is surely the perviest thing ever to appear on supposed kiddie telly. Such filth.
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)

What, even with the Vervoids? And the Zygons for that matter... and hte Fenric. And... *shudders* the Ogrons. Yeesh. There have been many... naughty touches in the show. .... er... and by touches, I mean.... oh never mind. My mind is a filthy place!

(Plus I adore Babs. She is quite the woman.)

[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 12:16 pm (UTC)
You make me want to watch Doctor Who again~ I haven't seriously been into it for most of a year, at least, but now I'm getting cravings =3
[identity profile] wrote:
Apr. 15th, 2007 01:48 pm (UTC)

The new stuff's shaping up rather wonderfully, too. :)