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Turlough's Gimp Bed

  • Mar. 25th, 2006 at 11:52 PM
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Adric's bedroom was a nice innocent place. Poster of space. Books. Eighties mesh chair that my friend Simon had. A perfectly acceptable place for a young Alzarian to curl up on a blanket and think about Maths.


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Turlough's approach to suitable bedroom furniture appears to have been slightly different.


Ignore, if you will, the pouting air hostess, and marvel.

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Surely that can't be comfortable? Though I suppose it is wipe-clean...


In other news, I have been watching Doctor Who: Lust in Space, aka Mark Strickson Presents Something That Will Make Your Brain Hurt. My fandom is on very hard drugs. John Nathan-Turner making jokes about toast! Nicholas Courtney perving on Katy Manning! Some hats that don't fit properly! Plus a photomontage of b&w images of the Turlough/Peri bikini rescue, set to moving music. Stricko manages, when discussing Tegan, to declare 'She arrived in a school uniform, and ended up in a boob tube!' Freudian slip, darling?

Who cares how batshit it is? It has Stricko being snide in it! Hurrah!

Oh, and I was watching Gaudy Night (the Edward Petherbridge/Harriet Walter one) after discovering that my friend had never heard of Dorthy L. Sayers (I know, I know), and it took me two whole episodes to notice it has Liz Shaw in it. In my defence, Miss Hillyard is being played by Robert Hardy in a wig, which was distracting.

But I'm now having the worrying thought that in my brain, a little bit, Fivey = Lord Peter. Which is just wrong.

Comments

[identity profile] anne-asta.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 12:40 am (UTC)

As this is a promo-shot, are we positive this isn't simply Tegan's room? I have the feeling the rooms in the Tardis are kind of utilitarian and hotel-y. Instead of a Bible, you get a prop mask hand-me-down from one of the nature shows.

Who cares how batshit it is? It has Stricko being snide in it! Hurrah!

Still have not gotten this to work, and perhaps that's a sign. I'm not positive if I could properly cope. I can't even go to the conventions, because the passage of time (and careers) freaks me out.

[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 12:50 am (UTC)
Nope, that's definitely Turlough's bed: you catch a glimpse of it's leathery charms in Terminus. Quite why this isn't a promo shot of the ginger minx draped alluringly over it is beyond me.

Lust in Space is...um...there are no words. It is sort of worth seeing purely for the sensation of feeling your jaw dropping lower and lower. A documentary about sexism featuring interviews with cast and crew, and also a plot about space whores. Michael Moore has a thing or two to learn from it, I'd say.

Stricko is great. Katy Manning is, er, not. (She does a peace sign and says 'girl power!' to camera. That is not ok.)
[identity profile] darchildre.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 12:59 am (UTC)
oh, thank god, i'm not the only one who's been mentally casting peter davison as lord peter. which yes, wrong in the extreme, but it continues to sit there.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:15 am (UTC)
Doesn't it, though? Every time I think 'no, Petey's too fluffy', I remember that that's part of Lord Peter's deal: that everyone assumes he's this feeble wet fop with a silly monocle and a posh voice, when he is super-fabulous and has lurking angst, giant brain, and surprisingly muscular calves;)

That said, I love Petherbridge in the role. He is spectacular, as is she.
[identity profile] darchildre.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:20 am (UTC)
have you seen campion? because it is much the same thing - deceptively fluffy detective set in much the same time period - only it actually is peter davison. it's a bit silly at times but fun. (and there is peter davison singing during the theme song which is rather more marvelous than it has any right to be.)

i actually watched the petherbridge have his carcasse for the first time last night and was utterly enthralled. and i may have to buy the dvds.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:29 am (UTC)
Ahh, Campion. Such fond memories. I seem to remember lots of lovely black tie dinners at country houses. Haven't seen it in years but suspect I might have to track down the dvds - especially if there is singing! Am still grinning from watching All Creatures Great and Small when he sings a lovely song about farmyard animals while stirring pigswill: classic Tristan.

Petherbridge is great. I have a couple of the Ian Carmichael ones and while he's good at the posh jolly stuff, he just doesn't nail why Wimsey is sexy. Whereas Petherbridge is, for me, just right: not attractive in any conventional sense, but foxy in a lispy wet intellectual sort of way. Gaudy Night is particularly good; Strong Poison suffers a bit more from 80s drama pacing, and is quite desperately slow, but still very watchable for the characterisation.
[identity profile] bibliophile1887.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:09 am (UTC)
OK, Peter as Wimsey? *lurves*

And, that is definitely Turlough's room. We saw Tegan's in "Snakedance." The question we have to ask is ... "Why is Tegan lying sexually sprawled on Turlough's bed?"

Haven't seen Lust in Space. Now, there's something else for me to find....
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:17 am (UTC)
Yes, Tegan's clearly decided she likes him after all. Unless she knows this is the most likely place to find the Doctor...

Lust in Space isn't exactly essential viewing, but it is cracktastic. It gets progressively weirder, to a point where you start feeling slightly faint. I'm still wondering if I imagined the entire thing, to be honest.
[identity profile] tekiclutch.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 08:35 am (UTC)
Lust in Space isn't exactly essential viewing, but it is cracktastic.

I would've just put "CRACKTASTIC" and left it at that. I made the mistake of watching it when I had only seen one or two Doctor Who stories ever. It kind of felt like I had just failed at donating blood.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
I'm slightly stunned that you're still here, on that basis. You watched Lust in Space and said 'ooh, that show's for me!'?

*fears you*
[identity profile] tekiclutch.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 10:57 pm (UTC)
I have some sort of disease where I can only really enjoy TV shows that I can't possibly take seriously. Doctor Who will always fall into that category for me, Lust In Space just confirmed that.

...And you really should fear me, I'm the type you see walking down the street having a very animated conversation with themself. ♥
(no subject) - [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com - Mar. 26th, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] spiritedchaos.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:10 am (UTC)
He doesn't ever need to use the bed because he shares one with Five? Seriously that's the best excuse I could find and it's even more suspect than the idea of anyone actually sleeping on that thing. Is it wrong that my first though was "I'm surprised he doesn't have a headboard for the ties/handcuffs? I need to be locked away for my safty I swear. Also that is so a diagram of a black hole above the bed, wtf's that about?

Why is Tegan draped over Turlough's bed anyway? ;)

Lust in Space contains unbelievable levels of Strickson snarkyness, especially his lines commending "the excellent Turlough" They should have spent more time on comparison with the male companions though - for all the screaming and uselessness of the women, they were just as bad. I think it's convention to comment on Peri's assets and ignore the fact that the male companions are running around in fetishwear, doing stupid things, being tied up left, right and center and getting themselves in even worse situations. And they ignored the fact that the Rani kicked the arse of the clearly male Doctor and Master.

Katy Manning scared me a lot with her girl power.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:22 am (UTC)
It just doesn't look very comfy, does it? And oddly lacking in suitable bondage accoutrements.

I was just waiting for the moment when it was pointed out that if the criteria for the accusation of sexism were making companions bare their flesh, get tied up a lot and squeal for the Doctor to rescue them, then Turlough wins by a country mile. At some point I shall think Important Thoughts about this, and write a lovely essay about why Turlough is in fact the archetypal girl!companion. Except worryingly that seems to suggest that slashing them is actually het.

Katy Manning scared me a lot with her breasts too. But 'the excellent Turlough' bit was great. Shame they then made the same joke about twelve more times...
[identity profile] spiritedchaos.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 01:31 am (UTC)
If Turlough had been a girl there would have been outrage at the costume and the kinky bondage. Same if Five had been a pretty blonde woman but no-one notices the sheer dogyness of some of the episodes (unless you're a slasher/pervert/acolyte of the Ginger One/all three). Archetypal girl!companion essay is a very good idea.

Except worryingly that seems to suggest that slashing them is actually het.
Simple solution i) go by "the Doctor's been female all along" theory ii)write a similar thing about Fivey as most of the same things hold and voila back to slash!

Did that make any sense? Nope, but I'll press post anyway.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 02:52 pm (UTC)
Yay! Five/Turlough is femmeslash! Five is a bit of a girly Doctor, let's face it: all that swooning in people's arms, and fussing over his celery being tidy. (Girls fuss over their celery all the time, you know.)
[identity profile] spiritedchaos.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 05:27 pm (UTC)
Only three comments to get to the crack idea of Five/Turlough femmeslash - possibly a record in surreality there ;).

Mustn't forget the effeminate dusting and the carefully applied make-up of girly Five - whatever would a real man like Three with his frills and velvet think?
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[identity profile] gemnoire.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 27th, 2006 09:56 am (UTC)
#figures since I delurked on dw_slash, I may as well delurk here#

Ah cracktastic Lust in Space... I think the comment that gets me was when Strickson was questioning JNT about the introduction of Peri and the outfit (well lack of) she was wearing. I believe the response was 'Put yourself in the shoes of say a male companion in that episode, you'd probably be wearing something along the lines of a t-shirt and a short pair of shorts...' ah the ironry.

I wouldn't call Turlough particularly an archetypal girl!companion... he seems a bit too competent for that (though since I've only thus far managed to get a hold of a limited selection of Turlough episodes, I may need to revise this)
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 27th, 2006 12:10 pm (UTC)
I trust you have seen Planet of Fire? JNT's argument there is rubbish, mind: 'it's not sexist to dress up the girls in bikinis because we did the same thing with Turlough and turned him into even more of an intergalactic space slut than he was already!' Er, yeah.

If you take the girl!companion archetypes as regularly getting captured and tied up by supervillains, squealing helplessly for the Doctor to rescue you, and being made to dress in kinky fetishwear, he's pretty high on the list. That said, he does (sometimes) get to enjoy a level of trust with the Doctor that I don't think any of the girls get (excepting Romana, who really doesn't count as a companion as she is too marvellous): being an alien who actually knows stuff makes him quite handy and, as you say, competent.
[identity profile] gemnoire.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 27th, 2006 02:23 pm (UTC)
#hangs head in shame# actually I havn't managed to get a hold of Planet of Fire yet, I'm currently acquiring (read downloading) the rest of series 20, then will move onto 21 of which I've only seen Warriors of the Deep and Caves of Androzazi.

I actually found the comment nicely ironic given who it was directed at... but turn Turlough into more of an intergalactic space slut... is that even possible? Oh no, wait a minutes, of course it's possible and now my mind's just supplied me with a number of ways to do it.
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 03:39 am (UTC)
..dude, shaddup. looks like my room....except mine also has a giant rat cage with two fat spoiled furballs sleeping in there :P

Bedroom for sleep! And stuff I don't want my housemate in! the rest of time we all live in the office...

*utalitarian look for teh win!*
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 02:54 pm (UTC)
It is a lovely bedroom. But it does have a LEATHER BED. That bedroom is clearly not set up just for sleeping in, yo.
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC)
No, it's set up for easy cleaning and embarrasingly loud squeaky noises

thus proving not only is the ginger minx a kinky bastard who likes messy sex, he also likes other people to hear it :D
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 02:58 pm (UTC)
Which is, let's face it, not even slightly a surprise. Such a tart, that boy.
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[identity profile] lucythedragon.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 09:55 am (UTC)
Lust in Space is the greatest thing ever. XD I think that might have been only the third Doctor Who show I saw, other than a disjointed PBS marathon and one Five story. This explains ... a lot.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 26th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC)
I can't begin to imagine what that might do to your expectations. Production values, pretty much standard; level of script-making sense, same. Crack rating: higher even than the Kandyman, three Nimons and SPC put together.