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pontisbright ([personal profile] pontisbright) wrote2008-07-05 07:47 pm

Journey's End

For those who read my earlier dream post, did they just make Eight not canon? Or have I misunderstood the timey-wimeyness of half-human half-Time Lord peoples? I CLAIM MY FIVE POUNDS ANYWAY, DAMMIT.

And here are some incoherent thoughts
Well, it made me sob like a fool, so they definitely did lots right. Murray Gold needs to calm the fuck down and Rose was, alas, horribly ill-served by the worst thought out plot resolution ever (here, have this trite yet unsatisfying ending and a really unpleasant-looking snog!), Jake/Mickey has been retconned, and Rusty is a lying liar re Gwen/Gwyneth.

BUT

OMFG. Oh, Donna. And it was predictable but in the most heartbreaking way, and godammit if Turn Left didn't break me into little tiny pieces already and now that's what she is, and OH WILF WITH YOUR HAVING TO LEAN ON DOORS OHHHH. And remembering to ask the Doctor if he was OK, which is really isn't, and instead of them having had a season all about Poor Wonely Dockter Woo they haven't done that, they've had him having fun with his lovely brilliant mate, and OH POOR TEN. Who has fucked up everyone he's ever met. (Wot no Adric in the flashback, boo.) Half-human him kills everyone: Time Lord him does a War Games. He's shit and he knows he is.

The bit where he goes back into the kitchen because he wants to say goodbye? OHHHHHHHH.

I'm sure there were lots of other very important things I will complain about later but for right now, I am very happy with how sad they made me. Gosh. It's been fucking excellent this year, it really has. And now I am going to cry about how his memories of all the lovely fun are now completely fucked, because I am an overinvested fangirl in a puddle, goodbye.

[identity profile] gingerelanor.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The snog was not nice.

Apart from that I mostly loved all of it and stuff, and like you say, Nooooooooooo OOOOOOOOOOOO for poor Donna. I loved DoctorDonna. She was cool. Even cooler than ordinary Donna, who was pretty damn brilliant.

I wanted Wilf to go away with the Doctor for a bit. Just one trip.

[identity profile] palmetto.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, what about Gwen/Gwyneth?

(You know I'm an American on the troll for spoilers.)

[identity profile] spiritedchaos.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I wanted the magnificent adventures of Doctor!Donna and her faithful sidekick Jack, damnit!

Am sort of wishing the Doctor hadn't used the same "I can save you, we're the only ones left!" chatup lines on Davros as he had on the Master last series, that's making my brain break...

[identity profile] gingerelanor.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. ANd what was that about Eight not being canon?
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[identity profile] kseda.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
..know what, that's okay, I'm not sure I want Eight to be any part of this canon. Says she who's only seen "Partners In Crime" and then gathered spoilers via the anon meme.

[identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I am glad I'm not the only one sad or whatever about Jake/Mickey! I didn't actually realize this but apparently I just had this idea of them living happily ever after in the alt!verse in my head and had that whole story. So that's gone, then :p

Murray Gold needs to calm the fuck down

Word. So many parts of this episode were embarrassing music-wise but the bit with the Tardis pulling the Earth back home? Oh my goodness.

Rose's 'happy ending' was kind of terrifying. It's like she doesn't care at all what happens as long as she gets her man, which isn't even her man but this fake clone Ten. It's really creepy! Like if she got a robot and dressed it up like Ten and made it love her. Yeeeeesh.

I TOTALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE ADRIC IN THE FLASHBACK. Hahaha. I thought it was going to be just him, actually. Instead of everyone ever.

The Donna (and Wilf) stuff was great and too sad. Awwwww Donna I love her. Ah when Ten went back to say bye! *flails*

I really liked this whole season, too.

[identity profile] rhube.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
The confusion over Eight/half-human is pissing me off. However, I think it's workable. We know from The Doctor's Daughter that there is at least one not-quite-a-time-lord floating around (and the comment of 'She's too much like me' for the OMFGBBQ). I hate the fact that they're confusing the canon in this way, but I think the thing is that Donna/human!Ten were half'n'half in a different way. Or, more properly, they weren't half'n'half - they were part'n'part. Donna didn't become half-Time Lord, she got some Time Lord knowledge/mind/personality; and the other 'Doctor' was Ten, but fully human, or at least, much more so that half-human!Eight or Jenny, as they both have two hearts. They're more fully Time Lords than human!Ten or DoctorDonna.

And thus my fanon is reassured.

Not even gonna talk about the horribly-cheesey-(surely)-even-if-you-ship-them Rose/human!Ten thing.