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Blake's 7, season 2 continued

  • Aug. 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 PM
pontisbright: (4briggosh)


OMG THEY KILLED GAN!

How did I not know that was going to happen? Blimey. I didn't even like him, and now I'm all sad. (Although they managed to film it so badly I was a bit confused and didn't believe it for ages.) I then had to watch Trial in order to make sure he wasn't just sci-fi dead, and lo, twas awesome. I did spend the whole thing wishing proper!Travis was in it, admittedly, but there was also Nyder and Plum from the Pros and Tosh from The Bill, and emo!Blake which was quite cheering. And a lizard woman and a planet that eats people. And Avon just...Avonning. I LOVE YOU BLAKE'S 7.

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[identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC)
BLAKE GETTING SQUIRTED. LESBIAN MILITARY LAWYERS IN LEATHER.

And, well. Pressure Point. Half of which was just emo slash bitchery, really (see icon).

And Travis II is rubbish but he seems to have a crazy fan following. I don't really get it, but at least you can point at him and laugh every time he goes "NYAAARGH", the Cockney nutjob.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
I kept waiting for them to explain that it wasn't actually piss being squirted all over Blake. I should know better by now.

I love how Avon and Blake manage to be slashy in a 'pair of old bitchy exes' way and a 'we're never ever doing it ever stop looking at me like that' way simultaneously. Then again, Avon is practically humping the furniture, so it's hard not to find subtext with pretty much everyone.

People like Trav II? WHAAAAAT? Total downgrade. Even shouting POUND YOUR BANANA at him doesn't really bring the love: he's just not as capable of having a pervery pissing contest with Servalan. Though I do like the fact you can't see his eye through a fucking huge hole in the front of his eyepatch.
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 07:46 pm (UTC)
And thus begins the fine B7 tradition of KILLING OFF YOUR MAIN CHARACTERS *mwahahaha*

Seriously, it's freaking carnage. And so realistic given they're a pack of terrorists with a huge bounty on their heads that I HUG IT TO BITS
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
Well, I know about the BIG one of them, obviously, but this was just a random episode quite early in the season: gosh. And yes, totally makes sense for them to actually die once in a while given the stakes. Plus bonus opportunity for them to realise the Blake is a bit of a loon, really. (I love him but I imagine he's not good for one's health long-term...)
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
Actually the further you watch the series, the more you realise they're all starting to go more than a *tad* insane. Blake is quixotic to the point of actual psychological instability, but at the same time his insane idealism rapidly becomes the cornerstone that keeps the rest of them balanced.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
I only ever remember seeing bits of S4 when I was very small, and having Blake explained to me (they had fun explaining the '7' bit), and I never really got WHY they would follow this guy. And you watch S1 and you just would, wouldn't you? And now they're exploring that a bit more, and I love it.

Especially because I keep seeing all the ways it's influenced other things - most obviously that whole fundamental distinction between the Trek-style 'we are the authority, let us educate the savages' shows and the 'crazy space rebels!' ones. Farscape especially springs to mind: not just Crichton-the-loony, but the moment when Moya finally demands a captain (and it isn't John!); Chiana doing a bunk to the planet of teenage shroomies, and pointing out that life on Moya is actually quite shite. Spaceships full of people with agendas who never wanted to be there in the first place FTW.
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
That's always been the thing though - most classic US sci fi does tend to move towards the "military is always right!" Great White Hope sort of viewpoint (Star Trek, whereas the UK has always been "err, well humans are a bit shite, authority has a tendency to go pear shaped, and to be honest, that's not gonna change any time soon" and tend to have a far more dystopian air. (Compare the original BSG with "Last best hope in a war we cannot win BUT WE'RE ALL WHITE AND HEROIC, YEEHAW" to B7 and it's "Oh yeah, and we're completely fucked" mentality)

Although that has thankfully changed - US sci fi does still have an annoying tendency to want happy endings, but at least it's beginning to pull back on the frankly unrealistic bullshit. Which is why RTD annoys me because he has a tendency to swing towards thatHAPPY SHINY ENDING shizz, which makes me want to poke my eyes out with an olive fork.

If you've ever seen Babylon 5, JMS owes a LOT to (oddly enough) both b7 and Trek. Except his is more tempered - although the idea of the highly stylised, almost iconic hero of the rebellion is there, it's tempered by far more humanity. The faults of a human being at the core of the mythos are there, but instead of being self-destructive, they're closer to the Trek ideal of "Hero People is niiiiiiice"
(At the same time though, I've never seen a trek character turn into a raging alcoholic to deal with it, or end up as a brain in a jar, or all that other lovely b5 stuff :)

It's completely and utterly unsurprising that Farscape ended up more UK than US - it is after all, done by a pack of Aussies :D
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:00 pm (UTC)
I had no idea what I was getting into with B7, so I seriously was shocked about Gan. I thought he'd come back as a clone or reprogrammed or... just. Something. Poor Gan. Now I know better.

Oh, Trial would have been SO GLORIOUS with Stephen Greif in it. sigh.

You're getting close to Killer though, one of my very favorites. XD With Vila in his tight leather trousers. :D
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
He was the boringest of them all, but so entirely goofy with it that it's like they killed Humpty Dumpty or something. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN. How I shall miss your swivelly eyes and plummy voice.

I just watched Killer and thought it was a bit pants, sorry. I got all excited about it being Bob Holmes, too. I liked Avon and Vila snarking, of course - and OMG CHOCOLATE-COATED COCKROACH OUTFITS. But the stuff with the virus and Blake doing his 'I'm going down there regardless of whether it makes sense, or there will not be enough happening in this episode' business was yawnsome. Cally's sudden! reoccuring! magic! powers were quite random too. If there was a version with just Avon and Vila and Ronald Lacey in it that would be grand, though. But I think I prefer Boucher's insanely piss-takey Avon...

2 and a half episodes in one day when I have soooo much else I need to be doing. Oh dear.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 2nd, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC)
Wait, Blake is in Killer? >D I usually just sort of FF through Blake's scenes. I love it because it's so clearly Avon bringing his new boyfriend to meet his old ex boyfriend and show him off. There's a bit of rubbish, yes, but Avon and Vila in their hideous capes is totally marvelous.


CLEARLY YOU LOVE THE B7 MORE THAN WORK. (Which, frankly, isn't hard.)