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pontisbright: mini-margaret: UK apprentice (apprentice_margaret)
"Ms Rowling had originally supported the Lexicon website, but she said there was a difference between fans publishing information for free on the internet, and selling it in the form of a book."

Y HALO THAR, Torchwood man!  And yes, I know, different country = different laws, and LJ entries =/= popular wizard novels (well, depending on who you read), but still, not entirely unrelevant, no?  I haven't read all the OG reactions or all the author's defensive ripostes (though there's some v interesting stuff about fanboys vs fangirls/forums vs LJ etiquette from [livejournal.com profile] calapine  and co here), but the overarching issue seems to be the same: that fundamentally t'Internets and Books What Are Permanent And Purchasable are different things, with different rules.  I almost want one of the quoted people to go chasing Torchwood Man in court, purely for the LOLs.  (And the educational factor, of course.  I know what a 'Flint' is now, thanks to SVA, and am confident this will be very useful in my old age.)

One request: internet, stop slowly turning into one very large Fandom Wank, would you?  Or (bearing in mind that Twilight isn't even out yet) at least wait till I've got sod all else to do?





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[identity profile] sovietkiki.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 07:59 pm (UTC)
:|

Is it bad that it was the JKR vs. Lexicon guy that made me really, really, really hate her?
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
Nope, not at all. I know lots of people felt the case was opening up the opportunity for a grand crackdown on fanworks in general. I just think they're wrong about that, and she was quite entitled to bounce that particular work - especially bearing in mind that multiple other unofficial, nothing-to-do-with-her Potter-related titles (quiz books etc) have been allowed to slide.

The manchild dude is the one who's been truly fucked in all this, mind: he was appallingly badly advised by a small, very naive publisher. I feel a bit sorry for his weird, freaky self.
[identity profile] taperoo2k.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
So they finally made a decision on that court case then (it'll be interesting to hear what Leaky have to say about it, they've kept a dignified silence mostly during the whole thing).
I just hope it means Rowling will get on with writing her own Harry Potter reference book now.

The internet was made for fanwankery of all kinds!
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
Weren't some of the Leaky staff witnesses? I have a vague recollection of the Lexicon having been hosted on Leaky servers for a while. Damn, I know too much about this stuff...

I think fanwank truly may have replaced pron as the internet's raison d'etre. How odd.
[identity profile] taperoo2k.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:38 pm (UTC)
Melissa Anelli (and sue) was a friend of the bloke who runs the lexicon, that is until the lawsuit. It'll be interesting to hear what she has to say about the whole thing, as she had to stay quiet as she took the witness stand in the trial along with some other leaky peeps.
I haven't really discussed Harry Potter outside of the net, cept for last year when i went to London for the deathly hallows launch.


I fear that fanwank and pron will meld at some point......
[identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:16 pm (UTC)
internet, stop slowly turning into one very large Fandom Wank, would you?

It's not just fandom. I feel like I am completely losing my shit. There is NOTHING BUT STUPID EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET!!! Was there always this much undiluted stupid? Am I just being particularly sensitive to it recently? Good lord, I can't take much more. I need to stop looking at stupid_free. And I need a vacation. And a stiff drink.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC)
It's not just you! The stupid is oozing from every corner. I want to blame it on over-excited youthful types who are packing for college and have got over-excited, but I suspect the greater part of the lunacy comes from people who really should know better. *headdesks repeatedly*
[identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
It's not just you!

Oh, thank god. I was getting freaked out! I mean I usually love to point and laugh at the stupid, but today I just lost it. It was like I hit a wank wall or something. I just couldn't take anymore! I think stepping away from comms for a while might be the sanest course for me.
[identity profile] ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
I think the American election is a) getting people fired up and tetchy which then spills over elsewhere, and b) getting people who normally are thankfully not generally online to get on the Internets and express their stupid. Then everyone else gets grouchy for a second order version of a).
[identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
I think you are very, very right. The election is pushing me over the edge. It's invading every corner of my existence. And living in DC is not helping things at ALL. I need it to be over already, for good or bad.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
TWIWANK IS SARAH PALIN'S FAULT. Truth.
[identity profile] ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
I am almost certain that she has an account on Twilight Moms under a bad pseudonym.
[identity profile] biichan.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
We need someone to photoshop her head onto the EW cover, STAT.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 10:25 pm (UTC)
But how would she find the time between moose shootings and being a hockey mom?

Sigh. I WISH THE ELECTION WAS OVER AND I DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE. SEE HOW IT MAKES ME CAPSLOCK. :(
[identity profile] taleya.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2008 05:43 am (UTC)
Not just you, there's a reason why I've started openly advocating genocide.....

..then again I do work tech support, so I'm a misanthropic shit. The constant stream of the worst mind-grinding meanness humanity has to offer will do that to you.
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[identity profile] strangefrontier.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
bearing in mind that Twilight isn't even out yet)

Really? Good grief! Considering Twilight fandom is the sparkly king of all wank-producers at the moment, I can't imagine how ridiculous things'll get once folks have actually seen the film.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2008 08:38 pm (UTC)
I must confess the NuttyMadam youtube stuff last week carried me through some impending gloom quite successfully, so I shouldn't grumble (although I'm glad I've stopped pointing randomly at objects and shouting 'UH-MAY-ZING' at them). Authorflounce over the leak was like the little cherry on the top of the Renesmee sparklecake.

I have this strange hope that the film will turn out to be a bit Golden Compasslike in the end (in the 'not the new Potter because not enough people care and it isn't very good' sense, not the 'fighting polar bears' sense. Although that would not necessarily be a bad way to end the prom).
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[identity profile] redscharlach.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
I went and looked myself up in the Torchwood book at lunchtime. There's a big paragraph of me slagging off From Out Of The Rain. It amuses me to think that this is my most high-profile contribution to world culture for some time...
[identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
I'm avoiding the internet for about a week when the TL film comes out because the whole place is going to become a battleground.