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  • Nov. 19th, 2007 at 8:09 PM
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I seem to be extra-geeky at the moment. I am blaming the weather. (It SNOWED on me yesterday, ffs. I was less than whelmed.)

Some fannish things:

1) Time Crash is still making me all smiley and cheerful. I have decided that my very favourite bit is when Five says 'I'm so sorry' when they bump arses, because it's so instantly 'ah yes, it really IS him', and I miss that ridiculous polite wordiness. Also, when Ten says 'I'm so sorry' it means 'I have just witnessed the death of one or more people/species, and I wish to express to you that I am sensitively emo about it, yet also conscious that this one or more people/species death is but a tiny drip in my infinite ocean of mantimelordpain. When Five says it, it probably just means 'hello'. (Or 'I appear to have spilt your tea'. Or 'please don't execute me, we did that cliffhanger last week'. I appreciate that the beige-haters probably prefer the angstier kind of apology, but, well, they are ninnies.)

2) I went to that Spike and Ianto gig thing. Bloody weird way to spend an evening, that, but larks all the same. Tosh was there and had one of those tops that has buttons going up the back, and is either terribly stylish or evidence that you do not know which is the front of your cardigan. I shook Ianto's hand on the way out. He has big hands. Just in case anyone was wondering.

3) Despite really hating 301 and it still being in many ways appallingly misogynistic telly, I am quite in love with the new season of Supernatural. I hear the fandom hates on the new women: SURPRISE! I'm quite fond of them, Bela especially. No idea what they think they're doing with Sam's characterisation, but at least his hair is a bit less stupid now. And anyway I am not really looking at him. Ah, shallowness.

4) I have now seen the first episode of Prison Break. Best Entirely Implausible Premise Evar! Also more candy for the ever-hungry shallowness brain.

5) Oh, I am going to miss SJA terribly. There were three actively bloody awful things in this one (the fucking Slitheen AGAIN, the crapulous ruination of the beautiful Sarah-doesn't-need-a-Mr-Smith-she-just-needs-herself-and-her-self-created-wonky-family metaphor via the K9 deus ex machina, and Floella Benjamin, who was unwatchable, alas), but I have to let them off because there was so much that was magnificent. I found the first 10 minutes or so actively upsetting, and got quite tearful. I want to hug them all, and if they don't get a second series I will throw stuff.

Missed Robin Hood on Saturday. Was it worth chasing up? (I mean, obviously it was bollocks, but was it the good kind of bollocks or just woeful and turgid? In essence, I'm asking did Guy take his top off again in front of Alan for no reasons other than gay ones like last week? I enjoyed that bit.)

Comments

[identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You're going on [livejournal.com profile] whoquotes for the Time Crash bit. It just captures things perfectly. Perfectly. Hope you won't mind.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:18 pm (UTC)
Quote away, m'dear. :D
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[identity profile] strangefrontier.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:44 pm (UTC)
When Five says it, it probably just means 'hello'.

Hee! But so true. I squeed a little over the appearance of the glasses. :D

I do agree with you about Sam's hair. Now that he's finally abandoned that forehead-eating fringe, he's much more lookable-at. But, y'know, Dean still owns me on lookable-at-ness, which should absolutely be a word. Fandom's reaction to the new female characters has been ridiculous and verging on hysterically mysogynistic. I'm looking forward to finding out more about Ruby's motivation for helping the boys slay her demonic brethren, and though I started off loving-to-hate-her-but-still-appreciating-her-character I now love-to-love Bela.

I don't watch Robin Hood, but folks on my flist say it's even gayer than ever. [livejournal.com profile] munchkinott does good screencappery which allows me to enjoy the leather and silliness withouth bothering to switch on my TV.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 10:04 pm (UTC)
The specs o' sex: o yay.

I remain amused at how perfectly my own total lack of interest in Sam in favour of Pretty Broken Dean seems so entirely mirrored by the writers. I know it isn't anything new, but still: they so can't be bothered, and it cracks me up. The fandom thing makes me so relieved I have no fervent urge to engage, because, oh my, they make the worst of the Rosefen seem outstandingly mature. I can't claim that Katie Cassidy is my favourite actress of all time, but I'm intrigued by the character and hope she gets enough screentime to actually do interesting things (unlike poor Jo). And Bela is exactly the kind of 'has a brain, and her own job, and will snark' woman that the fangirls claim they want, and yet... I still like her regardless of the accent, and that's quite the achievement.

Ooh, Hoodiness without actually having to sit through the shit bits: ta!
[identity profile] rhube.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Yes! You're so right about point 1. I love my angst, but the contrast was beautiful (and I love Five the mostest anyway, of course).
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:02 am (UTC)
Twas indeed a nice little moment of seeing where they connected and where they didn't. Natch I'd rather the old git's way of doing things, but that's because I am one. :)
[identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 19th, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
The problem with Bela is that she is one of those "I can do everything better than you!" kind of female characters that crop up quite a bit. (Do male characters ever have this syndrome? Or is it just taken as read that they can do everything better and it's only the women who have to make a huge deal out of it?) I think they can make her work, it's just that right now a lot of the time she drives me batshit crazy. (And I have seen other characters make it work, but usually they toned down the "I can do everything better so NYAH!" thing. I wish I had a better way to explain it.)

Really, I'd just like Ellen and Jo back, thankyouverymuch.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:16 am (UTC)
I know what you mean - and it's entirely within the mentality of the producers to go 'strong female character' and come up with something really unpalatable. But a lot of that is just down to the same vaguely shoddy writing that keeps the 'big bro, kid bro' machine running: sure, they add the occasional 'going to hell' or 'you might be evil' thing, but not so much as to ruin the monster of the week. Emotional truths: not really their bag - much as I adore the little car scenes and suchlike.

I think the trouble is that in SPN, the women who aren't just death-fodder DO have to be emphatically 'I am better than you' - yet in a way the show will, by necessity, beat down and thus make look stupid. They've established such a rule of 'the show is the boys, do not touch the boys' with the only female presences being people who get to die, and occasionally get snogged, but not usually in that order, that any recurring woman has to be evil (check) or disinterested to the point of being evil (check). (There's a discussion to be had re whether it's possible to be 'good' and a shag-prospect in the Winchesterverse without it leading to instant death, methinks.)

And after all the fansnit over Jo, it's tricky. They fucked up big time with her character, I can't bear to watch 'No Exit', I think that her final ep with no apologies after is 'Born Under A Bad Sign' says a lot about how unspeakably thoughtless the producers were - but then from what I can tell the fan dislike wasn't from her being treated as some kind of meatpuppet at random, but that she dared to express any interest in St Dean. So fuck knows.

I'd LOVE to see Ellen back (now there's a woman who didn't need to prove herself, jusyt did it by turning up), and Jo too, only with some better writing so she didn't appear to be the reverse Buffy pls. But in the meantime, if they can keep Bela and Ruby at the level they are, as recurring guesties who progress the plot, that's great. I'd like to see some more of the romantic tension too, but bizarrely enough I can see the boys remaining neatly celibate just to keep the cesty fans happy.

Ultimately, of course, I am mainly in it for Dean's manly manpain, so *shrugs* whatever.
[identity profile] wishfulaces.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC)
the women who aren't just death-fodder DO have to be emphatically 'I am better than you' - yet in a way the show will, by necessity, beat down and thus make look stupid

That is definitely a huge part of why I hate it--it's humiliating for the women, and there's little I despise more than smug men. (I also hate the competition, but that's RL issues coming through in part, I think.) It's weird that they manage to write Ruby without the competitive streak--then again, Ruby's a demon, and how the hell do you compete with that?
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
Augh, Slitheen yes. But I adore Clyde and I liked most of it, and K9 was deux ex machina, but well, I like him too so I can't complain too much. It's sappy but I still overall enjoy it. It's fun, and I'm sad it's over. I want season two now, please. Do we even know if it's been renewed for more?
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:28 pm (UTC)
The announcer at the end of the CBBC episode mumbled something about there being more, but he was dressed as Queen Victoria and being assaulted by his wig and a cactus at the time, so it was a fraction unclear. I don't think there's been an official announcement yet, but I'd bloody well hope so.

Clyde is made of awesome, indeed. I love them all. It's Five's crowded TARDIS o' love all over again. :)
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:30 pm (UTC)
It's Five's crowded TARDIS o' love all over again. :)

Sort of? Hahhahahaha. I wouldn't call any of the three kidlets Tegan though. :P But yeah, I see what you mean. XDXDXD I do love it, and I think they're doing a great job of juggling it all too.

I have no idea what catcus thing you're talking about, ahahahahha, but I certainly hope there is more. It's full of win.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:37 pm (UTC)
Hee! Seriously, after the episode aired they went back to the continuity guy, only the usual guy was dressed up as a butler and was being forced to serve tea to someone in his chair who was dressed as Queen Victoria. And there's always a puppet cactus on the table who messes stuff up.

It possibly makes more sense if you see it. A friend of mine gets paid to think this stuff up: I am always so very amused when I hear his 'boring work anecdotes'. :)

Luke is Nyssa and Adric's lovechild.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
Luke is pretty stable for being Nyssa and Adric's, ahahaha


And, yes, yes. My versions of the show always cut off after the credits, so I guess that explains that. It sounds like an awesome job though, man.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:45 pm (UTC)
No wonder he went 'hrm, ok, guess you weirdos will do for my parents'.

It is an awesome job, I reckon. He's always 'so today, I wrote eight comedy sketches, and made a guy dress up as a pie'. I am waiting for the day he finally gets to run his own show.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
Ahaaha, tell him to hire me as a writer, when he does, eh? Hahahahaha. That's awesome. XD


And yes. But, let's see. If Luke is Nyssa/Adric, I guess that makes Maria Tegan and Clyde Turlough? :D
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:55 pm (UTC)
Someone please explain to me why the gmail ads accompanying this included:
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Nothing too fancy or frilly, just big comfy knickers size 3XL to 6XL
?

Re the hiring: get in line. :P

I can't see Maria or Clyde as Tegan. They've got the curiosity and determination, yeah, but then Peri has those things. I can't see Tegan having the calm common sense needed to do the mental typing thing inside Mr Smith: she'd just hit things with her shoe. And Maria's a bit more willing to take advice.

And there's only one Turlough. :) Besides, SJ herself is hardly a Five type. Works as an indirect analogy, maybe?
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:57 pm (UTC)
I think Clyde could break Turlough over his knee, anyway. And would probably hurt me for comparing them, but that's okay. XD



Huge knickers for all of us! HooraY!
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 12:05 am (UTC)
Aaaaand now my ads are Boys Wearing Tampons. I AM BLAMING YOU FOR THIS.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
.... Mine is "101 recipes -- Yeast raised cornbread" and the one before that was a news article about Doctor Who taking a year off, so clearly it's just on YOUR SIDE.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 12:35 am (UTC)
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[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 12:51 am (UTC)
... your ads don't even make sense!! Why would a man need bra training!? What the hell?!?! Ahahahahahaha.

Mine is "5 little-known Gmail features you may not yet know about." THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
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[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:21 am (UTC)
... you're just making this up now, aren't you!?
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
I swear to god, all totally kosher. I think each crazy onhe encourages another.

Now I have:
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Women from south america, brasil searching serious relation


I could not make this up.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:27 am (UTC)
but... but why I am not getting the same ones? I'm on gmail and mine is more recipes, this time for "Golden-crusted brussel sprouts." IS THIS AMERICA VS. BRITAIN AGAIN?! I thought we were the obese and sex obsessed!
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:40 am (UTC)
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Plus much Whoviana. Presumably mine are being targeted based specifically on my own comments, so me posting about 'boys wearing tampons' spawns more the same - and maybe it's regional. Guess all those boys wanting tampons and bras will ahve to move to blighty. :P
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
There we go, now I've got:

"www.nancymeyer.com - Featuring Aubade, La Perla, Huit, Simply the World's Finest Lingerie"

Granted, it's not boys wanting tampons or men needing bra training, but it's a step in the right direction.... um. What am I saying.


Now I just want to see if mentioning boys wearing tampons in my comment gives me something hideous too, ahahhaa man.

No embroidered panties for me, since we don't have no ITV! D:
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:47 am (UTC)
TAMPONS KNICKERS BRAS LADY-BUSINESS EMBROIDERED PANTIES

*sits back to watch*
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 01:53 am (UTC)
Ahahahaa. It's the exact same "nancymeyers.com" ad. MY GMAIL FAILS D:
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
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Mine is wall to wall knicker ads now, and not a sniff of 'Doctor Who bedding'. Although that will presumably now change.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:03 am (UTC)
"You Have 2 Secret Crushes - DiscoverYourCrush.com - 2 People Want You! Find Out Who it Is - Scary How Accurate This Is."

At least that's a step in the right direction.

I bet Doctor Who likes wearing tampons and 6XL sized knickers with no frills! Room for all twelve!
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:08 am (UTC)
SONIC TAMPONS!

That is all.
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:11 am (UTC)
Yay sonic tampons! Aahaahahaha.



Also, I commented on your RSS feed thingie... but should I go the extra click and comment on the proper blog itself instead? I don't know if you're mailed the rss feed comments.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)
I'm now wondering what a sonic tampon might do to my insides. I'm sensing a design flaw...

Am not emailed comments at present (must fix that, it's silly) but have read and responded. Ta! Most interesting. :)
[identity profile] vandonovan.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:32 am (UTC)
Maybe it will... unlock the... actually, I won't finish that sentence.


Yay for responding, thanks. And getting comments emailed to you would be smart, yes. :D
[identity profile] gritsinmisery.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 03:51 am (UTC)
1) Fivey wasn't completely posh but he was delightfully polite. And what's more, the "I'm so sorry" that meant "I appear to have spilt your tea" and the one that meant "I'm actually glad I did that, you're a prick" were said with exactly the same inflection. You just had to watch for the glint in his eye with the latter.

2) I don't care if it's really meant that way or if it's just the stylish thing to do -- cardigans / jumpers that button up the back look like you're wearing them backwards.
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:29 pm (UTC)
I'm quite sure the arse-bum ping was intentional on all sides, tbh. :)

Naoko certainly looked v foxy in hers, anyway. If anyone's going to pull off a backwards knitwear scenario, she will.
[identity profile] jaydeyn-sitari.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 01:04 pm (UTC)
4) Prison Break is definitely fun brain-candy. Careful, I got addicted very quickly on marathoning the first season. :) Just you wait until William Fitchner shows up! :)

1) Yes to ALL. :D It was just so sweet and lovely and oh-I-miss-Five! (And all the others quite frankly. Lets do away with the timelordpain, yes).

2) Spike and Ianto? *brain shorts out momentarily* They did a gig together? How awesome! :)

3) Supernatural could be the best show ever if they did drop all that misogynistic bullshit. *sigh*

5) I wish to state for the record that SJA >>> TW. By quite a lot. Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane? was absolutely brilliant. And yeah, freaking Slitheen. I hope we're done with them now.

:)
Jaydeyn
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:33 pm (UTC)
You mean there's more pretty to come on PB? Heavens.

(((Five)))

Spike and Ianto did a little fan thingy in Cardiff this past weekend (James Marsters was back doing some Torchwood filming, and they both have bands, so they did a little Q&A, which i didn't see, and a small fan gig, which I did). Not onstage together performing, but from what I gather they both have high opinions of each other. Bless.

SPN remains a show I'm slightly embarrassed about liking, because at times it really is reprehensible. And other times it's fabulous. And sometimes it's just angsty and thrilling and I am soooo easily distracted. Am enjoying this season more than I expected given the opener, anyway!

SJA > TW by so so so much. Frankly, SJA > DW too. I know which I'd most happily sit down and rewatch right now.
[identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 20th, 2007 06:31 pm (UTC)
Prison Break is made of complete Awesome (and, I have to admit, I think I lov it a little bit more than DW - but don't tell anyone)
[identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 21st, 2007 11:26 pm (UTC)
*gasps* But DW is so much more true to life!

It's quite cheery embarking on something where I honestly know bugger all about it. (Apart from there being a prison break, obviously. And it apparently being really very exciting at points in S3. :P)
[identity profile] frightened.livejournal.com wrote:
Nov. 23rd, 2007 10:15 am (UTC)
I'm quite liking Sam's increased sassiness. From his "So I can GOUGE my EYES OUT" comment in the first one, it's good that he's finally living up to the "bitch" nickname.

Bela's good, but she's no substitute for Ellen. I want Ellen back NOW. We all know she's staying with Bobby post-Roadhouse-fire (um, in my personal fanon, anyway); where is she in all the Bobby episodes? (Frantically hiding all the evidence of their grouchily perfect sex life in case the boys or Jo have a surprise visit, possibly.)

Ruby is a bit... I forget who was talking about the problems with the way Meg was very very gendered with all that demonette seductress crap. Now, Ruby's not so bad - in a fight between her and the Crossroads Demon, f'ristance, CD'd be all scratching and hair-pulling and Ruby would totally lay her out with one punch - but it's still there. And it annoys me. Please let her be a boy demon in a girl body and interestingly genderqueered. Especially if Sam wants to shag her.