I think my first ever encounter with Jo was on some retrospective, where Katy was talking about how she never had her specs on and thus never had a clue what was going on, and I thought, awww. That'd be me, stumbling around after the Doctor, not having my specs on. And she's all girly and perky and has Mick Ronson hair, and how could anyone not think she was cute as a button?
Only then I watched the dvd extras, and there was Katy Manning at some con and I WANTED TO STAB HER.
And now I'm trying to watch The Green Death, and all I can think is I WANT TO STAB YOU.
I think this is why I don't go to conventions. I'm not very good at the whole fiction/reality divide. She is spoilering it, though! I want to look at the maggots, and get hoity about the accents (Prof Clifford is from some suspicious northwesty place, very dodge), and all I can think of is how much I...wish to do something. With knives.
Also, I am not at all feeling the Jonlove. I'm just not getting it. What is the deal with Three? What am I meant to like? He is smug and sort of unconvincing. *cries at failure to be proper old school*
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Why do you want to ... do things with knives? What did she do that made you realize you have a knife fettish when she's around?
On a specific note, she was wearing a quite startling outfit with an amazingly short skirt, with little cutouts in it to emphasise that it was even shorter in places. And shit, the woman has great legs, don't get me wrong: she should work them. But there's that whole 'I'm a certain age yet I have great legs, AND I am at a convention full of sweating fanboys who will like that, woo!' that just smacks of...nasty. And she got into this whole 'toying with the audience' schtick, which involved her getting up out of her seat repeatedly, to show off the great legs, and it all started to feel a bit manipulative - especially as the whole thing she's peddling is the same 'kooky innocent wide-eyed gal' thing, and it just looked sort of, um, cheap. And then she did the same thing at some little 12 year old, and it looked just plain freaky.
She's exactly the same in Lust in Space. It's like she's stuck on Kooky Slutgirl setting, and Three never got round to switching itoff because he thought it would be funny.
I really haven't seen much of him - but none of it is setting me alight, and she is not helping, sadly.
Perhaps if you tried a story with Liz (Inferno perhaps) or one with Sarah (NOT Planet of Spiders). Perhaps without
RoseJo there you might actually like the Doctor!I must admit to never having seen a Liz story. I suspect she will reveal that actually, weird Katy-annoyance aside, I think Three is a bit of a santimonious arse. I keep being pleased when it's bits with the Brig being all fussy, and bored when the Doctor does the same thing. Even the Venusian aikido isn't doing it - although i did like the bit where he was trying to forage in some dirt, and you got a nice close-up of his frilly cuffs.
I should not be judgy, though. If I viewed Five purely though 'Four to Doomsday' that would be deeply harsh, after all.
Although she spends much of "Inferno" acting like a alternate version of herself, she's absolutely fab. Plus there's just a sweet hug at the end, that puts to shame any Three/Jo shipping. If I had to ship three with someone it would totally be Liz. Her first story is Spearhead From Space (naturally) and she's wonderful in that too. It's just a pity she was only around for one season. *sigh*
I think Three is a bit of a santimonious arse.
He is, he really is. But then I think that can be said for just about all of the Doctors.
I imagine a fair bit of my resistance to Six and Seven has a fairly obvious screechy source
See, I've always loved Peri, and I think Mel was simply mis-used. She had so much potential and it was totally wasted. But then, so did the character of the sixth Doctor, and any number of companions through the years.
Of Mel stories, I've only seen Paradise Towers recently, but I really struggle to find redeeming features from her. Bonnie just plays to the back row all the time, and while I understand how that might have worked with the campy panto of the show at the time, it just grates. She's acting in a completely different genre from everyone else. I know that she's meant to be relentlessly eager and perky, but at some point we should sort of like her, shouldn't we? Or at least sympathise with her a bit. And I can't get round her 'performer' approach enough to see her as a rounded character.
But then, as you say, she's hardly the first to have wasted potential.
She's really used well in the BBC book "Business Unusual."
All I was getting was annoying health freak with a fashion sense which is, quite distressingly, not that dissimilar to what is in Topshop at the moment,
Which is why I think
Hopefully, I'll get it finished this weekend. Yay!
There was a bit of Three on when I was in college. A friend and I used to talk about the episodes, and I pointed out that Katy is something of a two-face: In certain lighting, she's achingly hot, but three seconds later, it's "Oh my God, it's my grandmother!"
Turlough has a run-in with her in "It Really Ties the Universe Together". One wonders how they'd get along ...
OMG you cannot say things like tat without posting more! I WANT MY CRACKFIC!
I think you're only unforgivable if you don't like Pat & Frazier :)
Frazier = Jamie, you mean? (I hope so, or am v confused. Fraser Hines, none of yer fancy foreign 'z' business:P ) I can't fathom anyone not loving the Two 'n' Jamie thing. They are just great. I'm happy to state it isn't even just down to the easy-access boy-in-skirt option, either - cos they're fab whether you think them slashy or not. And even in the absence of Jamie, Two is fabulous. I want ot be that craggy of face when I get old, seriously. He looks great.
Must watch them more, yes. They are adorable together. 'I'VE LOST HIS FAAAAAAAACE!'
And I really must rewatch "Inferno" as I recall liking it way back when...
Inferno sounds like a riot. And that's two recommendations for Spearhead from Space. Bring on the Autons!
I think it's the coy 5-year-old act that really puts me off. It's really unbecoming on anyone over the age of 6.
I LOVE Two. He's almost my favourite.
I quite like Jo. The Green Death was a great story. Gotta love the giant maggots and the Welsh chappy.
Two = LOVE.
Green Death is much improved now I'm four episodes in. Maggots, boyo! Fetch Jones the Mop, isn't it!
Have they been dive bombed by the giant plastic flies yet? That's funny.
Also, I've come to the conclusion that Knowing About Actors In RL nearly always leads to annoyance and h8. Which is poo. So most of the time I just don't want to know. How I'm going to reconcile this with knowing Colin is lovely and not being able to stand Six is a bit tricky, though.
I think the Colin thing is tricky, because it makes me feel much more sympathetic towards his era, just because it is all quite shit, but not his fault. But yeah, I suspect as a blanket policy avoidance is the way to go. (Except when there are things like commentaries where they all bitch about
Waterhouseeach other and it's hilarious.)Of course, being irritated by DW companions isn't exactly unusual for me. There are some (or many? Oh, I lose count) I haven't seen, but as a wild generalisation, I prefer the male companions. You get too much shrieking, flaunting and whimpering with females. There are exceptions of course (of whom I have seen less than I've seen of the annoying ones... oh the pain of it all), but in general the males are less annoying to me. Oh, I've just remembered Adric. Well... at least he won't pierce anyone's eardrums.
*Sigh* It's about time we had another male companion.
The Master is always the best thing about anything :)